Andres Freund joined Bryan and Adam to talk about his discovery of the xz backdoor. It’s an incredible story… so great to get into the details with Andres. We started by ranting about the coverage in the New York Times… coverage that explicitly refused to dig into the details! It’s all the more shocking because the big story here is how Andres’ penchant for digging into the details is what saved us all from what would have been a pervasive and damaging attack!

In addition to Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal, we were joined by special guest Andres Freund.

Our research for this episode:

Andres' initial public disclosure
New York Times: Did One Guy Just Stop a Huge Cyberattack? by Kevin Roose
Kevin Roose
New York Times front page from April 4th, 2024
How I got started as a developer with Andres Freund & Heikki Linnakangas | Path To Citus Con Ep08
The Mystery of ‘Jia Tan,’ the XZ Backdoor Mastermind | WIRED
How one volunteer stopped a backdoor from exposing Linux systems worldwide - The Verge
Linux backdoor was a long con, possibly with nation-state support, experts say - Nextgov/FCW
research!rsc: Timeline of the xz open source attack
Brian Krebs thread on mastodon
Xz/liblzma: Bash-stage Obfuscation Explained
A Microcosm of the interactions in Open Source projects
Risky Business #743 -- A chat about the xz backdoor with the guy who found it (podcast)
Risky Biz News: F-Droid narrowly avoided XZ-like incident in 2020 (podcast)
What we know about the xz Utils backdoor that almost infected the world | Ars Technica
Everything I know about the XZ backdoor
LINUX Unplugged 556: The xz Backdoor Exposed 🚨 (podcast)

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Recorded April 8th, 2024

Engineering Incentives... and Misincentives